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The constructions “(not) more than”, “(not) more than”, “(not) less than”, etc. behave differently in a sentence. In some cases, a punctuation mark is required before "what", in others it is not needed. Whether a comma is placed inside the turns “more than”, “more than”, etc., depends on their semantic load in the sentence. In this article, we will consider all the options for decorating such turns with punctuation marks.

Part of speech and role in a sentence

The phrases “(not) more than”, “(not) more than”, “(not) less than”, “(not) later than”, “(not) earlier than”, etc. in a sentence can act as a combination of an adjective with a union or an adverb with a union:

1 Comparative adjective "more", "more", "less", etc. (sometimes with a negative particle "not") with the conjunction "than":

  • answers the questions “what?”, “what?”;
  • adjectives in the comparative degree “more”, “less”, “later”, “earlier”, etc. are formed from the adjectives “big”, “small”, “late”, “early”, etc.;
  • plays the role of a definition in a sentence;
  • depends on the noun.

The height of this tree(what?) no less than the one that grows by the road.

The height of this tree(what?) not less than ten meters.

Teddy bear for son's birthday(what?) more than the baby.

2 Adverb "more", "less", "later", "earlier", etc. (sometimes with a negative particle "not") in a comparative degree with the union "than":

  • answers the questions “how?”, “how much?”, “to what extent?”;
  • adverbs in a comparative degree “more”, “less”, “later”, “earlier”, etc. are formed from adverbs “many”, “little”, “late”, “early”, etc.;
  • plays the role of a circumstance in a sentence;
  • depends on the verb.

We need to get to the airport(how much? how long?) no later than one hour before the flight departure.

From our house to the store go(How many?) less than before stopping.

When is a comma placed?

Whether a comma is needed before “than” in the combinations “more than”, “greater than”, etc., depends on the meaning of this combination in the sentence. A comma is placed inside revolutions, if they express comparison or comparison. At the same time, the words “more”, “less”, etc. can act both as an adverb and as an adjective.

We collected from an adult tree(How many?) more apples than from a young one.

In this offer more - comparative adverb.

Sheregesh mountains(what?) much more beautiful and bigger than the Altai mountains.

Here "more" is used as a comparative adjective.

When is a comma not used?

It is not necessary to put a comma in the combinations under consideration if they do not express a comparison or comparison.

We can highlight the features of such combinations:

1 They are indivisible combinations that act as a single member of the sentence, in which a comma is not placed before the union “than”. Often after such constructions there are counting turns or words expressing quantity or units of measurement.

Our flight was delayed(for how much?) more than a quarter of an hour.

“More” is an adverb in a comparative degree, and “more than a quarter of an hour” is a circumstance.

Flight delay(which?) for more than a quarter of an hour caused discontent among many passengers.

"More" is a comparative adjective, and "more than a quarter of an hour" is a definition.

During our European tour, we visited(how many? where?) in more than seven countries.

“More” is an adverb in the comparative degree, “more than in seven countries” is a circumstance.

2 In many cases, the combination with the union “than” can be replaced by a synonymous combination without the union.

Grandmother will arrive no earlier than at eight o'clock in the evening, since by this time her granddaughter should return from the choreography circle.

Grandmother will arrive no earlier than eight o'clock in the evening, since by this time her granddaughter should return from the choreography circle.

3 Combinations “more than”, “more than”, “not more than”, “less than”, “not less than” can often be replaced by synonyms “and even more”, “and even less”, “at most”, “maximum”, “minimum”, “at least”.

Cleaning my apartment usually takes no more than two hours.

Cleaning my apartment usually takes a maximum of two hours.

Cleaning my apartment usually takes two hours, or even less.

4 Such combinations as “more than sure”, “more than enough”, “more than half”, “more than necessary”, which do not express comparison, are also recognized as indivisible.

- Will fifty thousand rubles be enough for us to relax at the resort?

Yes, that's more than enough.

I'm more than sure it won't be a week before they get back together.

In this case, “more than sure” - which is not a member of the proposal.

However, compare:

"One hundred percent convinced" is more than "sure".

In this sentence, the phrase “more than sure” expresses a comparison, so a comma is placed before “what”.

More examples for learning

"not more than"

Rumors about the Loch Ness Monster are actually nothing more than fiction and tourist bait.- no comparison, no comma needed

The central square, in my opinion, is no larger than Mayakovsky Square.- two objects are compared, a comma is placed

"more than on"

There is no more than an hour of work.- there is no comparison, you can replace the words the largest, maximum:

There's a maximum of an hour's work.

More than career growth, he was tempted by this job for a good salary.- turnover expresses a comparison, a comma is placed

"more than with"

Brother likes to eat dumplings with sour cream more than with ketchup.- two items are compared, a comma is required

There seems to be no more than a liter of milk in this jar.- there is no comparison, can be replaced by words "largest", "maximum":

Milk in this jar, it seems, is a maximum of a liter.

"more than sure"

I am more than sure that he will soon get tired of the monotonous rhythm of life.- no comparison, a comma is not needed before anything

"No doubt" - in my opinion, means more than just "sure". - comparison is expressed, a comma is needed

"in more than"

Buffets with hot drinks and gifts for citizens participating in elections for the first time have been organized in more than half of the polling stations. — no comparison

Artyom did not freeze because he was wearing a warmer suit than Vanya.- there is a comparison, there is a comma before "what"

"slightly more than complete"

We have used up our monthly budget a little more than completely.- used in colloquial speech, synonymous with the words "absolutely", "perfectly"; no comparison, no comma

"more than twice"

In the first four years of life, a child's height more than doubles.- does not contain a comparison, a comma before "what" is not placed; can be replaced by the combination "and even more":

During the first four years of life, the growth of the child doubles, and even more.

The volume of agricultural products over the past three years has increased by one hundred and ten percent, and this, for a second, more than doubled.- the indicators are compared in the sentence: an increase of one hundred and ten percent is more than an increase of two times, so a comma is placed

"more than necessary"

“Are you sure you don’t need supplements?”

No, no, it's more than necessary.- does not contain a comparison, a comma is not put.

Hearing "must" from you I wanted more than just "need"- there is a comparison, and there should be a comma

"more than half"

Let's go to the second car, it's more than half empty.- no comparison, no comma

To increase by two-thirds means to increase by more than half.

"that's more than enough"

If you have honey and lemon at home, then this is more than enough to treat colds.- no comparison, no comma before "what"

"more than just"

School for our students is more than just a place to gain knowledge, it is their second home.- contains a comparison, a comma is placed before "what"

Total found: 23

Hello! Can you please tell me the correct agreement with the numeral in the phrase: "In more than 60 countries of the world" or "In more than 60 countries of the world"? Thank you!

Right: more than 60 countries of the world(For example: textbooks for this programof the Russian language were sent to more than 60 countries of the world),in more than 60 countries of the world(For example: he has already visited more than 60 countries of the world).

Question #279310
Good afternoon Is it possible to say: "the cost of goods is 2 times cheaper than the selling price"? If this is wrong and the sentence needs to be rephrased, then how is it correct: "cheaper by two or more times" or "cheaper by two times or more?"

The answer of the reference service of the Russian language

Correctly: ... more than half the selling price.

Question #278725
Good afternoon. I'm used to the fact that in phrases a la "more than N times" a comma is put. However, as they say, in a sentence containing the words "the number of subscribers has increased by more than 10 times" a comma is not needed. Is it possible to somehow grammatically explain its absence, or at least understand in what cases a comma is needed before "what"?

The answer of the reference service of the Russian language

Question #270240
URGENTLY!
Please tell me which option is correct:
1. Our engines are used in more than one hundred countries around the world.
2. Our engines are used in more than one hundred countries around the world.
The place of the preposition in this construction.
Thank you.

The answer of the reference service of the Russian language

The second option is preferred. In such constructions, it is not recommended to separate the preposition from the noun.

Question No. 269032
Question No. 269016
That's right: in more than fifty cities or more than fifty cities. According to what rule (where can I read about it)? Thank you for your reply.
Love@sha
The answer of the reference service of the Russian language
Both options are possible.

Rosenthal says: The separation of the preposition from the controlled noun in constructions like: “I will come with a few more comrades” (instead of: I will come with a few more comrades) is unsuccessful; “Export volume has declined from about…; increased to about ... "(instead of: ... decreased from about ...; increased to about ...).
Therefore, it is better: in more than fifty cities.

The answer of the reference service of the Russian language

Thanks for the clarification!

Question No. 269016
That's right: in more than fifty cities or more than fifty cities. According to what rule (where can I read about it)? Thank you for your reply.

The answer of the reference service of the Russian language

In the "Handbook of Spelling and Style" by D. E. Rosenthal, the separation of the preposition in such constructions is called "unsuccessful" (i.e., according to the handbook, it is better: more than fifty cities).

Question #262379
Good morning!
Send money to over 90 countries around the world / or over 90 countries around the world?

The answer of the reference service of the Russian language

Both options are acceptable.

Question #255170
"cost the city more than 2 million" or "cost the city more than 2 million"?

The answer of the reference service of the Russian language

Correctly: ...more than two million.

Question #241725
"The residents of more than 250 houses have decided on their own management method. In more than 500 houses they will live under the supervision of management companies." Maybe the second sentence would be correct: "More than 500..."
And one more thing: contenders for the gold and silver medal(s)? Thank you.

The answer of the reference service of the Russian language

1. Correct: More than 500... 2. Plural preferred.

Question No. 240005
Please tell me if the phrase is correct: "In more than (More than in) 50 higher educational institutions ..."

The answer of the reference service of the Russian language

Both options are correct.

Question #235459
Which is correct: more than ten... or more than ten...

The answer of the reference service of the Russian language

Both options are possible.
Question #233276
Dear Help! I ask the question a second time. In your opinion, do you need a verb (say, do) after the word "necessary" in the following sentence: So, if on the last day of the reporting period the amount of controlled debt exceeds the amount of equity by more than three times, then in order to determine the amount of interest, you need to do the following. 1. Find the capitalization ratio (Kk). Thank you in advance.

The answer of the reference service of the Russian language

The word _do_ is needed.
Question #229669
Can you please tell me which is correct: certified in more than 15 countries or certified in more than 15 countries? Thanks in advance Olga

The answer of the reference service of the Russian language

Both options are incorrect. Correct: _certified in over 15 countries_.
Question #228897
Good afternoon, Please tell me whether it is necessary to put a comma before than. The results have grown more than 3 times over the years. Thank you more

The answer of the reference service of the Russian language

Additional punctuation marks are not needed.

Can Putin more two times in a row? No, it cannot, because there is no right to do so:

Constitution of the Russian Federation(part 3 of article 81)

The same face can not hold the position of the President of the Russian Federation more two terms in a row.

Definition of the Constitutional Court dated November 5, 1998 No. 134-O on a similar issue:

Two terms of office in a row, as referred to in Article 81 (part 3) of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, constitute constitutional limit, exceeding which the Constitution of the Russian Federation, including paragraph 3 of its second section "Final and transitional provisions", does not allow.

Professor's opinion Literary Institute. Gorky:

The word ROW, to which fans of the usurpation of power have become so attached, has a purely technical meaning in this article: it only indicates that these two terms allowed to the President follow in a row, one after the other ... And if he did not advance for a second term IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE FIRST, then the train left. And for all Russian-speaking people, an understandable word does not and cannot carry in itself by the properties of the genre - this is the Basic Law of the country for you! - cheating wink ("and NOT in a row, boys, - you can!"). (Marietta Chudakova, Jan 17, 2012)


Philologist's opinion

In itself, the adverb "More" in this article is used directly with the quantitative phrase "Two terms" and directly indicates the excess of the specified amount.

The adverb "In a row" in this article means without a gap, without a break, thus imposing an additional restriction on maximum number of two terms.

Due to the fact that the Constitution of the Russian Federation is a law, this document must be read literally, without any assumptions about a possible other meaning.

In the literal sense, this article clearly regulates the tenure of one person in the office of the President of the Russian Federation and limits it to one or two terms, provided that the second term immediately follows the first. There are no hints of a third term in this article. (Lecturer at the Faculty of Philology of Moscow State University.)


Let's experiment with the word "in a row":

For clarity, it is proposed to consider three phrase constructions from 81 articles.

If you remove the word CONTRACT:

The same person cannot hold the office of the President of the Russian Federation for more than two terms.- the phrase will mean that two terms are possible, both in a row and apart.

If the word CONTRACT is rearranged forward:

The same person cannot hold the office of the President of the Russian Federation for more than two consecutive terms.- the phrase will mean that no more than two terms in a row, and not in a row, i.e. smashed - not limited. This is what Putin needs.

Current text:

“The same person cannot hold the office of President of the Russian Federation for more than two consecutive terms” clearly means that 2 terms in a row are allowed, and only one term is broken down. (from here)


Logically.

Why was it necessary to introduce into the Constitution a two-term limit on holding the office of president, if not to eliminate the possibility of usurpation of power? Three or more terms is a usurpation.

Why introduce this restriction and simultaneously imply that it is possible to hold this position again after missing one term? What gives this one-term pass and a second return to the presidency? It does not give anything, and therefore this subparagraph of the article would not have been introduced into the text of the Constitution at all if it had not meant that two terms, and in a row, is the maximum that a citizen of the Russian Federation can count on.

Why is there a restriction on "two terms in a row" and not just "two terms"? Then, apparently, to ensure turnover, the rotation of presidents and their course, but at the same time give the right, in the presence of voters' confidence, to one president to pursue a longer-term policy than the length of one term.

If the word "consecutive" is not introduced, the ban on "more than two terms" does not preclude a person who has once been president, but has not been re-elected, from running in subsequent presidential elections. The person who was president would run in every election, thereby introducing unnecessary distortions into the electoral process.

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Many in the last month have discovered in themselves a lively interest in constitutional law. They are furiously discussing how to understand the norm of the third part of Article 81 of the Constitution on the impossibility to hold the position of the President of the Russian Federation "for more than two terms in a row." And they enthusiastically quote the ruling of the Constitutional Court of November 5, 1998 - more precisely, the phrase that "two terms of office in a row<…>constitute a constitutional limit, the excess of which the Constitution of the Russian Federation<…>does not allow."

These disputes are by no means theoretical, they are about

may or may not, in accordance with the Constitution and the definition of the Constitutional Court, Vladimir Putin not only run for president for the fourth time, but also hold his current position, because he had already served “two terms in a row” in 2000-2008.

And there is an attempt by Ksenia Sobchak to be a presidential candidate in the current elections (although, as expected, immediately by the Supreme Court).

Let's try to figure it out, all the more so since most of the disputants hardly remember why and in what circumstances the definition of the Constitutional Court was adopted. At that time, at the initiative of the Yabloko faction, a group of deputies (represented by Alexei Zakharov and Elena Mizulina in the Constitutional Court) applied to the Constitutional Court and asked for an interpretation of this article of the Constitution.

The essence of the matter was simple: presidential elections were planned for 2000, and some of Boris Yeltsin's supporters argued furiously that since Boris Nikolayevich was elected president of the RSFSR, and not Russia, in 1991, and before the adoption of the Constitution, his election in 1996 is the first from which the countdown of those two terms that cannot be presidency "in a row" begins. And, consequently, in 2000 he can be elected again.

The Constitutional Court took their side - otherwise it would remain unclear which country Yeltsin was president of in 1993-1996. At the same time, in 1991-1993 it was the same country, just in December 1991, its name was changed by a special law - from "RSFSR" to " Russian Federation”, and accordingly the president of the RSFSR became known as the president of the Russian Federation. And therefore, the term of office in 1991-1996, of course, goes "offset" for the two specified terms.

The decision of the Constitutional Court had the most important consequences - Yeltsin, realizing that he would not be able to be elected in 2000, began the search for a successor, which, we know, ended.

Now let's return to the current disputes - and the phrase from the definition of the Constitutional Court about the "constitutional limit".

It is possible (and, in my opinion, this is precisely the correct position) to interpret it as an absolute maximum - if someone has served as president for two consecutive terms, then he cannot be elected again. This means the unconstitutionality of the fourth term of Vladimir Putin. Moreover, his current term is called into question - after all, the question of whether he can be elected for the third time, after the "castling", should have been raised back in 2012. But then, for some reason, no one remembered the definition of the Constitutional Court of 1998 ...

However, there is another interpretation of part three of Article 81: after a break in government, one can again be elected president without violating the Constitution. And this position, based on a literal understanding of the rules of law (and the courts usually apply them only in this way), is defended by quite a lot of lawyers. Including those who are skeptical about the incumbent president, which means that in this case he has the right to be elected again in 2018. And it is necessary to fight him in the elections, not relying on the Supreme Court appointed on his own proposal.

In any case, Professor Viktor Sheinis, one of the participants in the Constitutional Conference that drafted the 1993 Constitution, says that at that time such a possibility never occurred to anyone: completely different problems were more pressing. By the way, the wording “no more than two terms in a row” (an option without the word “in a row” was previously discussed, that is, an absolute ban on being president for more than two terms, regardless of breaks), according to Sheinis, was proposed by Sergey Alekseev, Sergey Shakhrai and Anatoly Sobchak.

Finally, let's set up a thought experiment.

Imagine that President Imyarek serves his first term and then gives way to a successor. Then he is elected for a second term and ... after it, he again gives way to a successor, maybe even the same one. Then he is elected for a third term, then again gives way ... At the same time, he does not have “two consecutive terms” anywhere, the “constitutional limit” has never been exceeded, you can’t find fault. And the president sits in the Kremlin for the fourth time and after the next “shuffle” is going to the fifth: it turns out that the “limit” is not a serious obstacle to the monopoly on power.

The authors of the Constitution could rigidly fix the change of power - it was only necessary to write "no more than two terms" without any "in a row." And then today no one would argue about how to interpret Article 81 of the Constitution.

Let's summarize: to remove the words "in a row" from the Constitution, according to Grigory Yavlinsky, is one of the priority tasks of the future constitutional reform. Until a more radical reform is carried out - with the deletion of the presidential post itself from the "staffing" of the Russian government. Together with disputes, how many times can it be occupied.