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Losses in the Second World War 42 million. Victory presents the score. "Immortal Regiment" in the Czech Republic

Recently, parliamentary hearings were held in the Duma " Patriotic education citizens of Russia: Immortal Regiment". They were attended by deputies, senators, representatives of legislative and supreme executive bodies of state power of the subjects Russian Federation, the ministries of education and science, defense, foreign affairs, culture, members of public associations, organizations of foreign compatriots ... True, there were no those who came up with the action itself - journalists from Tomsk TV-2, no one even remembered them. And, in general, there was really no need to remember. The "Immortal Regiment", which, by definition, did not provide for any staffing, no commanders and political officers, has already completely transformed into a sovereign "box" of parade crew, and its main task today is to learn to step in step and keep alignment in the ranks.

“What is a people, a nation? First of all, it is respect for victories,” Vyacheslav Nikonov, chairman of the parliamentary committee, admonished the participants when opening the hearings. — ​Today, when new war, which someone calls "hybrid", our Victory becomes one of the main targets for attacks on historical memory. There are waves of falsification of history that should make us believe that it was not us, but someone else who won, and still make us apologize ... ”For some reason, the Nikonovs are seriously sure that it was they who, long before their own birth, won Great Victory for which, moreover, someone is trying to make them apologize. But they weren't attacked! And the aching note of the nationwide misfortune that has not passed, the phantom pain for the third generation of the descendants of the soldiers of the Great Patriotic War is drowned out by a cheerful, thoughtless cry: “We can repeat it!”

Really, can we?

It was at these hearings that a terrible figure was named in between times, which for some reason was not noticed by anyone, which did not make us stop in horror on the run in order to understand WHAT we were told after all. Why this was done now, I do not know.

At the hearings, the co-chairman of the Immortal Regiment of Russia movement, State Duma deputy Nikolai Zemtsov, presented the report “Documentary basis of the People’s Project “Establishing the Fates of the Missing Defenders of the Fatherland”, within the framework of which studies of the population decline were carried out, which changed the idea of ​​the scale of the losses of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War.

“The total decline in the population of the USSR in 1941-1945 was more than 52 million 812 thousand people,” Zemtsov said, citing declassified data from the USSR State Planning Committee. - Of these, irretrievable losses as a result of the action of war factors - more than 19 million military personnel and about 23 million civilian population. The total natural mortality of military personnel and the civilian population during this period could have amounted to more than 10 million 833 thousand people (including 5 million 760 thousand - ​deceased children under the age of four). The irretrievable losses of the population of the USSR as a result of the action of war factors amounted to almost 42 million people.

Can we… do it again?!

Back in the 60s of the last century, the then young poet Vadim Kovda wrote a short poem in four lines: “ If only in my front door / there are three elderly disabled people / then how many of them were injured? / And killed?

Now these elderly people with disabilities due to natural causes are less and less visible. But Kovda imagined the scale of losses quite correctly, it was enough just to multiply the number of front doors.

Stalin, proceeding from considerations inaccessible to a normal person, personally determined the losses of the USSR at 7 million people - a little less than the losses of Germany. Khrushchev - 20 million. Under Gorbachev, a book was published, prepared by the Ministry of Defense under the editorship of General Krivosheev, “Secrecy has been lifted”, in which the authors named and in every possible way justified this very figure - 27 million. Now it turns out that she was wrong.

How the official data on the losses of the USSR changed

Recently, the State Duma announced new figures for human losses Soviet Union during the Great Patriotic War - almost 42 million people. An additional 15 million people were added to the previous official figures. The head of the Museum-Memorial of the Great Patriotic War of the Kazan Kremlin, our columnist Mikhail Cherepanov, in the author's column of Realnoe Vremya talks about the declassified losses of the USSR and Tatarstan.

The irretrievable losses of the Soviet Union as a result of the factors of the Second World War are more than 19 million military personnel.

Despite many years of well-paid sabotage and all sorts of efforts by generals and politicians to hide the true price of our Victory over fascism, February 14, 2017 at State Duma at the parliamentary hearings "Patriotic education of citizens of Russia:" Immortal Regiment "the figures closest to the truth were finally declassified:

“According to the declassified data of the State Planning Committee of the USSR, the losses of the Soviet Union in World War II amount to 41 million 979 thousand, and not 27 million, as previously thought. The total decline in the population of the USSR in 1941-1945 was more than 52 million 812 thousand people. Of these, irretrievable losses as a result of the action of war factors are more than 19 million military personnel and about 23 million civilians.

According to the report, this information is confirmed big amount authentic documents, authoritative publications and testimonies (details - on the Immortal Regiment website and other resources).

The history of the matter is

In March 1946, in an interview with the Pravda newspaper, I.V. Stalin announced: “As a result of the German invasion, the Soviet Union irretrievably lost in battles with the Germans, and also thanks to German occupation and the deportation of Soviet people to German penal servitude about seven million people.

In 1961, N.S. Khrushchev, in a letter to the Prime Minister of Sweden, wrote: "The German militarists unleashed a war against the Soviet Union, which claimed two tens of millions of lives of Soviet people."

On May 8, 1990, at a meeting of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR in honor of the 45th anniversary of the Victory in the Great Patriotic War, the final number of casualties was announced: "Almost 27 million people."

In 1993, a team of military historians led by Colonel General G.F. Krivosheeva published a statistical study “Secrecy has been removed. Losses of the Armed Forces of the USSR in wars, hostilities and military conflicts. It indicates the amount of total losses - 26.6 million people, including combat losses published for the first time: 8,668,400 soldiers and officers.

In 2001, a reprint of the book was published under the editorship of G.F. Krivosheev “Russia and the USSR in the wars of the XX century. Losses of the Armed Forces: A Statistical Study". One of her tables stated that deadweight losses only Soviet army and fleet during the Great Patriotic War - 11,285,057 people. (See page 252.) In 2010, in the next edition of the Great Patriotic War without a secrecy stamp. The Book of Losses, again edited by G.F. Krivosheev, the data on the losses of the armies fighting in 1941-1945 were specified. Demographic losses reduced to 8,744,500 troops (p. 373):

A natural question arises: where was the mentioned “data of the State Planning Committee of the USSR” about the combat losses of our Army stored, if even the heads of the special commissions of the Ministry of Defense could not study them for more than 70 years? How true are they?

Everything is relative. It is worth remembering that it was in the book “Russia and the USSR in the Wars of the 20th Century” that we were finally allowed to find out in 2001 how many of our compatriots were mobilized into the ranks of the Red (Soviet) Army during the years of World War II: 34,476,700 people (p. 596.).

If we take on faith the official figure of 8,744 thousand people, then the share of our military losses will be 25 percent. That is, according to the commission of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, only every fourth soviet soldier and the officer did not return from the front.

I don't think anyone would agree with this. locality former USSR. In every village or aul there are plates with the names of the dead fellow countrymen. At best, only half of those who went to the front 70 years ago wear them.

Statistics of Tatarstan

Let's see what the statistics are in our Tatarstan, on the territory of which there were no battles.

In the book of Professor Z.I. Gilmanov “Workers of Tataria on the fronts of the Great Patriotic War”, published in Kazan in 1981, it was stated that the military enlistment offices of the republic sent 560 thousand citizens to the front and 87 thousand of them did not return.

In 2001, Professor A.A. Ivanov in his doctoral thesis "Combat losses of the peoples of Tatarstan during the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945." announced that from 1939 to 1945 about 700 thousand citizens were drafted into the army from the territory of the Tatar Republic, and 350 thousand of them did not return.

As the head of the working group of the editorial board of the Book of Memory of the Republic of Tatarstan from 1990 to 2007, I can clarify: taking into account the natives called up from other regions of the country, the losses of our Tatarstan during the Second World War amounted to at least 390 thousand soldiers and officers.

And these are the irretrievable losses of the republic, on whose territory not a single bomb or shell of the enemy fell!

Are the losses of other regions of the former USSR even less than the national average?

Time will show. And our task is to wrest from obscurity and enter into the database of the losses of the Republic of Tatarstan, presented in the Victory Park of Kazan, if possible, the names of all fellow countrymen.

And this should be done not only by single enthusiasts on their own initiative, but also by professional search engines on behalf of the state itself.

It is physically impossible to do this only in excavations at the battlefields in all Memory Watches. This requires massive and constant work in the archives published on the websites of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and other thematic resources of the Internet.

But that's a completely different story...

Mikhail Cherepanov, illustrations provided by the author

Reference

Mikhail Valerievich Cherepanov- Head of the Museum-Memorial of the Great Patriotic War of the Kazan Kremlin; Chairman of the Association "Club of Military Glory"; Honored Worker of Culture of the Republic of Tatarstan, Corresponding Member of the Academy of Military Historical Sciences, Laureate of the State Prize of the Republic of Tatarstan.

  • Born in 1960.
  • Graduated from Kazan State University them. IN AND. Ulyanov-Lenin with a degree in Journalism.
  • Since 2007 he has been working at the National Museum of the Republic of Tatarstan.
  • One of the creators of the 28-volume book "Memory" of the Republic of Tatarstan about those who died during the Second World War, 19 volumes of the Book of Memory of the Victims political repression Republic of Tatarstan and others.
  • Creator eBook in memory of the Republic of Tatarstan (a list of natives and residents of Tatarstan who died during the Second World War).
  • Author of thematic lectures from the cycle "Tatarstan during the war years", thematic excursions "Feat of countrymen on the fronts of the Great Patriotic War".
  • Co-author of the concept of the virtual museum "Tatarstan - Fatherland".
  • Member of 60 search expeditions to bury the remains of soldiers who died in the Great Patriotic War (since 1980), member of the board of the Union search parties Russia.
  • Author of more than 100 scientific and educational articles, books, participant of all-Russian, regional, international conferences. Columnist of Realnoe Vremya.

May 3rd, 2018 07:00 pm

The latest figure of 41,979,000 dead, announced in the State Duma, is shocking for an unprepared person, and for anti-Sovietists, wild joy, because they receive another confirmation of the mediocrity of the "cannibalistic Stalinist regime." But if you turn on your brain and rely on the basic figures for the pre-war and post-war population of the USSR, then you can easily understand that these numbers are a giant lie. Now I will illustrate this.

From my first topic, which exposes the new figure of losses of 42 million people from nowhere, it logically follows to continue with the calculation of more real losses suffered by the peoples of the USSR in the Great Patriotic War. But first, I'll show you the updated demographic chart:



I made the following adjustments to it: I took the population of the USSR at the end of 1945 of 170.5 million people from Krivosheev. The previous one was equal to 172 million. This increased the total decline in the population of the USSR to 34.5-36.5 million people.

Based on this figure, it is now possible to calculate the irretrievable losses of the military and civilians during the years of the war. To do this, it is enough to subtract from the total loss those who migrated (did not return from captivity and forced labor in Germany). According to Krivosheev, there were 180 thousand and 450 thousand people. Total 0.63 million

It remains to find out the natural increase in the population, which did not take place during the war years due to low birth rates and increased mortality. For this, I used the reference book of the Central Statistical Bureau of the USSR "Number, composition and movement of the population of the USSR" for 1965. There, on page 215, we learn that before the war, the annual population growth of the USSR ranged from 3 to 3.3 million people. For 5 years, according to the minimum and maximum scenario, this will give us a figure of 15 and 16.5 million people. We use the smaller number for the maximum loss scenario, and the larger one for the minimum one.

As a result, we get the result, which I depicted in the diagram:


Maximum figure - 20,9 million dead and killed during the war. This figure is very close to the official loss figure of the Brezhnev era, and the minimum figure in 17.4 million. close to Viktor Zemskov's figure in 16 million. Human.

I dare to suggest that by my reasoning I proved the complete delusion of the new figure of 42 million people. By the way, as well as the delusional perestroika loss figure of 26.7 million people, invented by the order of Alexander Yakovlev by the team of Andreev, Darsky and Kharkova, known for sucking out of the finger 7 million supposedly starved by Stalin in 1932-33.

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May. 6th, 2017

06:50 pm - On the origin of the fake figure of 42 million dead

voiced by the leader of the "Immortal Regiment" in the State Duma (otherwise the feed is full of reposts and discussions).
What's right there? Indeed, a group under the auspices of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (called the OBD "Memorial", not to be confused with the human rights "Memorial"), has been quietly working for many years to collect the names of the dead military; and her data clearly revealed the obvious falsity and understatement official publications of the same MO (gen. Krivosheev's group). Krivosheev's group, using the "reading on the ceiling" method, first obtained a figure of about 11 million (mid-1990s), and then, in the course of further "research" of the ceiling, revised it to 9-8 million (having a fairly obvious task to bring it closer at any cost). it to the figure of the losses of the Wehrmacht and the allies, ideally achieving a ratio of 1: 1).

[The Krivosheev group takes as a basis the deliberately incomplete reporting data of divisions-armies-fronts, and in addition, it was repeatedly convicted of arithmetic errors - always in the same direction, the largest "mistake" was half a million]

The file cabinet, which is also still incomplete, does not give the exact number of DETECTED losses, since there can be several cards for the same dead person (from the military registration and enlistment office, from the military unit, from the hospital) - well, or zero, of course. Moreover, if the card is not from the military registration and enlistment office, then it can not always be tied to the military registration and enlistment office (Ivanov Ivan Ivanovich from the village of Glinishchi of the Bolotny district and Ivanov I.I. from the Volkhov Front - is this one person?) However, a fairly reliable statistical procedure, not publicly challenged by anyone, allows you to understand from the available cards how many unique people are behind them. The answer is about 17 million, taking into account the estimated percentage of non-detection (missing, etc.) - 19.

THIS NUMBER WAS NAMED IN THE STATE DUMA, AND IT IS COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED.

But the figure "42 million Soviet people in total" is nonsense, and its source, it seems, is the same Ministry of Defense (it was not without reason that the speaker referred to it, and only in later publications replaced it with the State Planning Committee of the USSR). The fact is that the estimate of 26-27 million that has been available so far is quite scientifically justified, based on the results of the 1937-1938 and 1959 censuses and the data of the intermediate population count (having for 1959 not only the CASH number, but also the DISTRIBUTION by age, it is possible to reverse count quite accurately the population for 1945, then the difference between the population of 1939 and 1945 is taken, the trend of natural mortality, the decline in the birth rate (which DECREASES the death rate), etc. are taken into account, etc. In general, no mythical "Gosplan" anything that contradicts this figure, did not say.

Where does "42 MILLION" come from? Apparently. the point is in the strange tendency that has developed in the Moscow Region and among its fans to consider the ratio "ideologically correct" in which the losses of the army are LESS than the losses of the civilian population! (Where this nonsense comes from is impossible to understand, any army would be ashamed that it did not save the civilian population, but the fans of the "Russian Military Glory"arranged quite the opposite). So they wrote: 26 million, of which 8-11 are military, and 15-18 are civilians.

Meanwhile, civilian losses were calculated even under Stalin, for the purposes of Nuremberg, and determined ... at 7 million! Yeah, yeah, appreciate the irony of history and arithmetic: 19+7=26, everything fits. Can we trust the work of the Soviet Commission to investigate the atrocities of the Nazis? In terms of details, names, etc. - no, like all Soviet "justice", but in terms of numbers - why not? The victims of the Leningrad blockade are calculated quite accurately, and apart from Leningrad, nowhere on our side of the front line was there an ACUTE, DEATH famine, or bombing. In the occupied territories, there was an anti-partisan struggle that claimed the lives of tens, maybe hundreds of thousands, and the destruction of Jews, the victims of which are also counted (this is almost the entire Jewish population of the areas occupied during the campaign of 41 years, and some, fortunately a small part, of the population of the territories occupied later - then a planned evacuation was already carried out). These figures are easy to evaluate and see that they "beat" the calculations of the Soviet Commission.

So, 26=19+7. Apparently so. And 42 million came from an attempt by the Ministry of Defense to pull on civilian losses at least a little more than 19 million. Not 2 times, like Krivosheev, but at least a little.

PS And more. Books of Memory have been compiled for a number of regions and republics of the USSR, based on the lists of names of servicemen who were called up and did not return, and dead civilians. So, the further east the region is, the higher this figure is, and it practically does not affect whether we are talking about the Russian region, the autonomy of the Volga region, or Kazakhstan or Azerbaijan.

THIS IS 10-11% OF THE POPULATION (of both sexes and all ages).

Further west, this figure drops to 7% in Moscow, and even lower in German-occupied areas, the earlier the area was occupied, the lower. But, unfortunately, there is data for about two dozen regions out of more than a hundred.

20, 27 and 42 million dead in the Great Patriotic War. Who is bigger? February 25th, 2017

25.02.2017 08:00
Original taken from burckina_new in 20, 27 and 42 million who died in the Great Patriotic War. Who is bigger?

The latest figure of 41,979,000 dead, announced in the State Duma, is shocking for an unprepared person, and for anti-Sovietists, wild joy, because they receive another confirmation of the mediocrity of the "cannibalistic Stalinist regime." But if you turn on your brain and rely on the basic figures for the pre-war and post-war population of the USSR, then you can easily understand that these numbers are a giant lie. Now I will illustrate this.

And so I took the official figures for the population of the USSR and built this graph:

It is very easy to calculate approximately the total losses of the entire population of the USSR (combat losses + civilian + migration + decline in the birth rate). To do this, it is enough to extend the population of the USSR in January 1941 until January 1946 according to the forecast of the number of the Central Statistical Bureau of the USSR or according to the pre-war trend of population growth.

It turns out that if there had been no war, then the population of the USSR in 1946 would have been 205-207 million Human. But she as a result of the war she was equal 172 million Human. We subtract 172 from the forecast and get the figure of total losses in 32-34 million Human. This includes all losses: from increased mortality, reduced birth rates and migration.

No brainer that the death toll can not exceed this figure. To get the figure of the dead at 42 million people, it is necessary that in 1946 the USSR should have 146.5 million Human. But this figure is not confirmed by any source. Consequently, the figure of 42 million dead in 1941-45. false.